Cadelo meddles with impunity in this stimulating dialogue and joins the social side of George Didi Huberman with the artistic and civilization side that P.P. Pasolini had already shown in an interview in 1961, on the occasion of the release of the film "La Ricotta": "Nothing ever dies in a life. Everything survives. We, together, live and survive. Thus also every culture is always interwoven with survivals. In the case we are now examining [the film "La ricotta"] what survives are those famous two thousand years of "imitatio Christi", that religious irrationalism no longer makes sense, they belong to another world, denied, rejected, outdated: yet survive. They are historically dead but humanly alive elements that make us up. It seems to me that it is naive, superficial, biased to deny or ignore its existence. For me, I am anticlerical (I'm not afraid to say it!), But I know that in me there are two thousand years of Christianity: I with my ancestors built the Romanesque churches, and then the Gothic churches, and then the Baroque churches : they are my heritage, in content and style. I would be crazy if I denied this powerful force that is in me: if I left the monopoly of the Good to the priests ”.